How to deal with an INTP
Rules to adhere to when with us:
1) Respect our competence. But remember, we need empathy, not worship or excessive admiration, so don’t idealize us.
2) i) Accept that no matter how smart you think you think we are, we don’t have all the answers and therefore need help in things that strike as common sense to you (socializing, expressing our emotions), but don’t pressure us, or worse, patronize us. Because once you become patronizing, it’s goodbye.
ii) If you have a well thought-out counterargument to our thoughts, don’t be afraid to present it. As mentioned, we make mistakes too, and we don’t take challenges personally; it’s just another part of the process in reaching The Truth.
iii) Do not be offended when we present a counter argument to something you’ve said. It’s not that we think you’re incompetent, it’s just we want to reach The Truth.
3) Don’t try to lead us or expect us to lead you. We scoff at such things. Instead we want equals.
4) When you don’t know something, first research, THEN ask. Nothing annoys us more than people who are too intellectually lazy to try obtain information that is easily available.
5) Respect our personal space.
6) If you’re a man, stop trying to be macho and if you’re a woman, stop playing dumb. We’re not impressed by such behavior. Instead think out of the box and act in ways that defy what have been taught to you as a man or a woman.
7) Be creative.
8) Be idealistic. Stop accepting the world as it is now and saying it is the truth. It isn’t. Much of life is a social construction, based on systems of power that oppress one group or another. Things can always be more efficient and more just. Contribute your ideas on how to achieve this.
9) Politics and tradition? Rule that out of your dictionary.
10) i) Stop saying we are cold, or heartless. It’s not that we don’t have emotions, it’s just that we put them aside in our quest to be impartial. And through this so-called impartiality, we INTPs - the healthy ones anyway - want to make the world into a better place. Our kindness is not rooted in sentimentality, but elaborate and carefully thought-out designs.
ii) Don’t expect appeals to our emotion to work.
iii) And don’t expect us to assemble a persuasive argument based on emotion.
11) Stop using excessive exclamation marks - except when REALLY necessary - and start reading. You ask how come we are so smart? We aren’t smart. We’re just very intellectually motivated.
12) Be clear and concise in your speech. Verbal accuracy and precision isn’t semantic, it’s necessary. Also, repetition is generally more nuisance than articulation.
13) Respect our eccentricity, as well as those of others. It’s a good thing that we have our quirks, and it’s most likely a point of quiet pride for a number of INTPs.
14) Be ready to think of more than just a narrow range of topics. INTP interests literally span the universe. In fact, each individual INTP’s interests most likely literally span the universe. We aren’t interested in just a handful of things, we want to understand the UNIVERSE.
15) i) Understand that our humor is a little unconventional. Some (?) of us have slightly “twisted” humor, and we love sarcasm.
ii) And it’s not that we don’t love your joke it’s just that we’re laughing on the inside.
16) Stating the obvious is not appreciated.
17) Don’t take us too personally. Chances are, even when we are being critical, we aren’t actually trying to offend you so much as point out some sort of flaw in your logic or thinking patterns and giving you the opportunity to correct it. We’ll only move on to treating you like an idiot when you have clearly proven that you deserve to be treated as such.
18) For the love of G-d, please try to think quickly. INTPs love to make intuitive leaps - leap with us! There’s nothing more fun than take a current topic and relate it to the past, postulate about its future (realistic or absurd), make joking references to it by virtue of pop culture references or random word play, linking it to personal experiences (one’s own or others’) and established theories.
19) A blank face doesn’t imply depression. We smile when there’s something to smile about, so don’t lecture about how we’ll live longer if we smile more.
20) Thinking with logic is always appreciated and it doesn’t take much effort. If you think we are amazingly gifted for solving problems it isn’t because we are unusually smart, it’s only because we think.
21) We don’t believe in dogmas or that “things are the way they are because that’s how they are, so accept it”. We don’t accept things, if you want us to accept or understand something, then explain it.
22) Silence doesn’t mean I’m bored, not interested or not paying attention to what you are saying. Silence means we are actually interested, in deep thought and analysing what you are saying.
23) No, we don’t seek knowledge to manipulate people or rule the world; we are not megalomaniacs. We seek knowledge because we are naturally curious and want to understand everything.
24)Sometimes isolation and relaxing in silence while reading a book or just watching the nature and analise the beauty, the perfection of it all and how it works, is one of our favorite ways to have fun and it doesn’t mean we are bored or that we don’t like you. So don’t disturb us thinking you are doing us a favor: it is actually annoying
25) We value accuracy and precision — please, when talking to us, try to make sure whatever you are stating is factually and/or grammatically correct. We will try to correct you if whatever you are stating is not as accurate as it could be. And please understand, we are not trying to offend you or trying to be pricks — we just want to stop people from being misconstrued. Also, punctuation is not just for English majors. Please keep that in mind.
26) As smart and as intellectualy motivated as we may be, we still make mistakes. Contrary to general opinion, being corrected while we are wrong is always appreciated, so don’t be scared of pointing out our mistakes: we’ll actually thank you.
27) Encourage us. We tend to hold ourselves to extremely high personal standards, whether or not we let the rest of the world in on them, and it helps to have other people recognize what we are striving for. Though, do keep in mind that if you are encouraging just for the sake of encouragement and not because we are actually succeeding, we’ll recognize it and hear it as empty.
28) Don’t think we’re lazy and unmotivated just because your motivation speeches didn’t get us moving with the rest of the crowd. INTPs choose their passions carefully, and the words of the most on-fire speaker will go under intense scrutiny before we decide whether or not to take their side. That said, should we decide to take up said cause, idea, or job, we will do so both realistically and very thoroughly.
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Source: personalitycafe.com
Introverted Thinking
Van Der Hoops’sConscious OrientationThe introvert of thinking-type also takes his systematized experience as his guide; but here the emphasis falls on the inner aspect, thus on the need for objective order and on laws and principles, according to which experience is generally systematized. Abstraction of that part of conscious experience which is revealed as constant and subject to general rules is regarded by the introverted thinker as something of vital significance. He tries to arrange the opinions which he takes over from others in a system of his own. In doing so, he will take up a more critical attitude in regard to the thought-material which he is taught than do extraverted thinkers, and his aim is to follow the guidance of his own opinions and convictions. In consequence, we find a most careful working-over of his own experience, but a tendency to leave out of his reckoning facts and points of view which are not known to him. While the strength of the extraverted thinker lies in his easy application of systematized knowledge, the introverted thinker is particularly good at comparing systems and principles. He feels at home among abstractions, and there are many fine shades of meaning in the world of his ideas. Also, as he is more skilled in introspection, he is better able to examine mental facts than is the extraverted psychologist.
Hence we see here a living contact with ideas, and subtle reflection and consideration, side by side with difficulty in expressing and applying what has been thought out, and a certain aloofness from the world of facts in general. There is thus in these people a contrast between their consciousness of the objectivity of their judgment, and their difficulty, of which they are equally conscious, in defending this judgment and securing its recognition by others. This produces, even in children of the type, a peculiar attitude. They are often reserved, somewhat timid and uncertain, and seem not to feel at home in the world. On the other hand, they will, at the same time, manifest an obstinate, somewhat pedantic decisiveness. They have not the cool logicality of the thinking extravert, but take up a more fanatical stand, which may easily degenerate into dogmatism and extreme pedantry. In general, both children and adults of this type are, as a result of their introversion, difficult to convince that they are mistaken. Their inner, logical reasoning makes them feel that they are right, and they may take up an attitude to the external world also, which might be expressed as follows: “That is my opinion, even if I can’t prove it; whether you agree or not, it will not change it to the slightest degree.”
At an early age they have learned that the fact that they inwardly regard something as true does not in the least mean that others will accept it. As a result, their attitude is, in general, more sceptical in regard to the validity of any truth than is that of a thinking extravert, and they are more inclined to allow for the existence of differing views, even when these do not entirely tally with theirs or with those of prevailing authorities. At the same time, however, this gives rise to a feeling of aloofness in regard to any generally recognized system of truth, for this often seems to them something quite unattainable. On the other hand, they never cease to be surprised that what seems so obvious to them should not be equally clear to others. Occasionally such people will go to great pains to express themselves as objectively and clearly as possible, but sometimes they give up the attempt and simply present their views in the form in which they arose. In the difficult language of some philosophers we find the effect of both influences — sometimes in strange combination. As a result of this somewhat sceptical and resigned attitude in regard to form, the judgments of introverted thinkers have often about them something cautious, cold or stiff-necked. It is as if they already reckoned on difficulty in convincing others. Jung says of this type: “Even if he goes as far as giving his thoughts to the world, he does not deal with them as a careful mother would with her children, but he exposes them as foundlings, and at the most he will be annoyed if they fail to make their way.”
This inner conflict between certainty as regards conviction, and uncertainty as to how to maintain and apply this conviction in the world, intensifies thought concerning personal conflicts and problems. Hence many philosophically disposed persons belong to this type. They aim at having, at least inwardly, a foundation of pure ideals and definite principles for the ordering of their lives. Such people make, as it were, endless preparations for life; they constantly renew their efforts to perfect their equipment, so as to be equal to the fight for existence. This they do, not only in the big problems of life, but also in ordinary practical matters. They like to have a systematic view of the whole situation before entering on any new ground. In order to be able to adapt themselves, they need to have order in their life and work, and they love making programmes. When travelling, they eagerly study maps and guide-books, or they may even try to master the language of a foreign country, before ever they go there. Such people like to be able to foresee all the possible difficulties which may arise in their business or work, so as to be able to take precautions against them in good time. Occasionally this leads to the most elaborate reckoning with every important practical detail. Ford seems to me to be a good example of the potentialities in practical adaptation characteristic of the type, with his elaborate preparations down to the smallest detail coupled with a theoretical justification of all his ideas. In a mind less clear and with less insight into what is essential, this preparation may, however, lead to much fussiness and complexity, and in such cases much energy and attention is wasted in warding off imaginary dangers.
These thinking people are also found more especially among the male sex. Great philosophers, such as Kant, belong to them, and also many mathematicians and psychologists. Or they may be found in all kinds of practical and applied sciences, and taking leading roles as careful organizers, legislators or contractors. On occasion, however, they are unable to get over certain unpractical traits, and will then cause difficulties with their fanatical exactitude in details, or by everlastingly insisting on their pet principles in any discussion or practical undertaking. This makes co-operation with them in any large combine somewhat difficult. Socially, also, they are somewhat surly. Their attitude to others is more or less studied, seldom absolutely spontaneous. Here again, their systematic thinking stands between them and the world. Their words are usually carefully chosen and weighed, and thus are a kind of mask. People of this type are usually aware of this; but they see no possibility of adopting any different attitude. One usually learns to know them better in a smaller circle, where they will be more spontaneous, and even cordial or original; but even so, with a tendency to be awkward as a result of over-sensitiveness or irascibility. It is more easy to see them as they really are in some sphere in which they have begun to master the technique.
As among the extraverted thinkers, here, also, we may find keen concentration of will and constant activity. Since the introvert finds the motives for his aspirations more within himself, he is less dependent on external stimuli. This is counter-balanced, however, by greater susceptibility to inner difficulties, which, accordingly, may damage his working capacity. And while his independence of circumstances gives him great perseverance, even where initially no success is to be looked for, it may also happen that he will squander his best powers on something impossible from the practical point of view, without realizing this in time.
If the instinctive life manages to gain some influence, it will be conducted along definite paths by a controlling reason. As a rule, introverted thought finds support in the perceptual aspect of instinctive experience, since this represents its objective aspect. This type of thinker is, however, in philosophy, natural science and psychology, more inclined than the extravert to speculate on the nature of perception and the object. In addition, he is, as an introvert, more in touch with the subjective side of instinctual life. He is more conscious of the inner struggle between instinctual drives, and here also he will seek to create order with his reason, in which case it will depend on his principles as to how he will do this. The theorizing idealist, full of his ideal of the purity of love, and despising as filthy anything remotely associated with sex, will, in the inflexibility of his system, be not far removed from those who defend licence on the principle that nature must not be denied. Both attitudes are in point of fact calculated to evade the practical complications of the problem, and to keep it, so to speak, at a distance. The introverted thinker will sometimes have a great deal to say on such subjects; but he is not, for all that, better, or more skilled, in practice.
Intuition may also influence people of this type to a greater or less degree, giving them something original, which is, however, subdued, since it can only be permitted to play any part in their life after it has been carefully tested. Intuition also reveals to them the schemata and principles according to which thought may classify experience. But the immediate results of personal vision, both in regard to the internal and the external world, tend rather to be mistrusted, unless it is obvious that they will fit into the system. These results may, however, give rise to alterations and extensions in the system. Nevertheless, fine inspirations frequently remain unfruitful, owing to the ponderous way in which they are dealt with.
Feeling, again, gives rise to the chief difficulties in people of this type. Anything which conforms to their principles and views is allowed; but even this cannot easily find expression, owing to deficient familiarity with current modes of expression. As a result, people of this type will often display a strict conventionality, or else a childish disregard of these modes. Inwardly, their feelings, moods and impulses cause them much more unpleasantness than they do to the extraverted thinker, the latter being less aware of them. An introverted thinker, when in love, feels awkward, uncertain and ridiculous. He will try and talk himself out of his feelings, or else make endless preparations to give expression to them, which is, naturally, scarcely conducive to spontaneity.
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Source: thatintp
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Success is determined through the appraisal of one’s usefulness to society, by society; to me, it is a bothersome compromise for the sake of progression - a means to an end.
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Let It Be Known That INTPs Are Not (Really) Assholes
Let it be known that INTPs:
- Are truthful. This means we may value truth and honesty over sadistic lies.
- Are personable. They’re called Ti-Glasses. They let you see all kinds of cool shit without getting emotionally involved.
- Are nice people! Just don’t fuck with or misinterpret their notions!
- Are passionate about their convictions.
- Are uncomfortable with words like “passionate”.
- When underdeveloped, consider emotional investment scary.
- Say or post things that may seem personal, which really aren’t. Take my signature, for example.
- Cannot stand disharmony, but sure love entropy.
- Have probably already considered or thought about most things you’ve just mentioned, just won’t necessarily vocalize it.
- Will ask for clarification, assuming their ego is not large enough to impede them from doing so without first attempting to figure it out themselves. Oops.
- Have their egos stroked every time you call them “weird” or “nerdy”.
- Will load their brains with copious detail, but will simplify things just for you. Told you, we’re nice.
- Feel like a child without Christmas every time their mental fruit is rejected.
- Do love. But it may be referred to as a violent influx of catecholamines that overwhelms better reason.
- When underdeveloped, may have a love/hate relationship with their object of affection. Or just about everything.
- Can be walking encyclopedias. Please deposit a $1 for data relay.
- Care about enlightening people. Care about people who care about people.
- Have the attention span of a mango. May stare attentively at a mango and zone out for several minutes.
- Go from “spoon” to “thromboses” in ≤2.5 seconds.
- Have hearts that flutter like birds… Lifeless, zombie birds.
- Frequently feel the urge to incinerate the human race and feed its corpses to Cerberus when something goes wrong.
- Are uncomfortable with absolute certainties and permanence.
- Think they’re wrong before you even get the chance to think so. Criticize their work worse than you do, before you do.
- Are creative writers, and friendly just like those cute and flimsy NFs.
- Have UNDISCLOSED feelings and desires.
- Come in layers.
- May be volatile. May explode. May go into Hedgehog Mode like fucking Sonic and impale retarded muthafuckaz.
- Like being asked questions on the possibility that they might have not thought about that before. It happens.
- Naturally see the world as someone would see it under the influence of shrooms.
- Are disappoint*. All the time. Because even though existence is wonderful, humanity sucks.
- Tend to look serious and grumpy. It’s called Deep Thought Syndrome. Do not approach. They will mentally kill you with fire.
- Must CORRECT, at all costs, because cool kids care about semantics.
- Always need to be reminded. Always need to modify. Will weave in random contexts. Antarctica looks like a duck.
- Will do whatever the hell they want with whatever the hell they want, with reason, so long as it doesn’t unjustly harm another human being.
- Say one thing one day and a different thing the other. Their minds are malleable and adaptable.
- Quickly see the point. As well as 3452345 others.
- Worry that you will miss the point.
- Have 25 different faces with 25 different people. None of these 25 faces are untrue to themselves. Whatever their self is. They don’t care.
- Are rained on and reigned by fascination and intrigue.
- Think like excitable children, never really losing their sense of wonder.
*Intentional, you fucking grammar Nazis.
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Source: personalitycafe.com
Q:As a rising senior, planning on where to go as well as what to do is always on my mind. I'm trying to get input from as many sources as possible. Could you tell me what jobs do you think an INTP would enjoy/excel in?
Anything that is interesting. Nothing boring.
Q:In what kind of places the INTP types spend the most of their time?
Relatively quiet places where they can think and/or learn.
Q:I just want to thank you for this site. I learned I was an INTP in middle school, which helped my mother and I, who is a ENFP, understand our differences, and to work around them. But thanks to seeing how just knowing that changed my life for the better with my family, I decided on focusing on Psychology for a living. Just, thanks so much. This site never fails to make me smile, and even laugh at myself a bit.
The human mind is fascinating. Full of fantastic surprises.
Q:So I'm a fifty-fifty border on INTP & INFP and was wondering exactly how that might work out exactly in the combination of traits...
Do cognitive function tests. You probably aren’t actually a ‘fifty-fifty’ for each. Find a well constructed Jungarian functions test and answer the questions, not how you should react to them, but what is natural, what naturally suits you. It doesn’t matter if what is natural to you seems strange or ‘unreasonable’, you need to be honest with yourself.
Jungian Functions at a Glance.
1. INTUITIONNe
Springy, cognizant, including, observing, chromatic, ever-inquisitive, from the one to the many, connecting the dots.
Dominant in: ENTP, ENFP
Ni
Dogged, visionary, excluding, envisioning, wraith-like, inquisitive-then-satisfied, from the many to the one, filling in the blanks.
Dominant in: INTJ, INFJ2. THINKING
Te
No-nonsense, marshaling, organizing, expediency, dominance, pursuing goals without reflecting
Dominant in: ENTJ, ESTJ
Ti
Belabored, analytical, piercing, integrity, justice, reflecting without pursuing goals
Dominant in: INTP, ISTP
3. SENSING
Se
Promoting, intemperate, direct, photographic, expansive, noticing, awareness
Dominant in: ESTP, ESFP
Si
Retaining, temperate, indirect, impressionistic, habitual, knowing, recall
Dominant in: ISTJ, ISFJ
4. FEELING
Fe
Soothing, appropriate, world-then-ego, norms, harmonic
Dominant in: ENFJ, ESFJ
Fi
Championing, sincere, ego-then-world, ideals, certifying
Dominant in: INFP, ISFP
Source: mbti-junkie
“A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections- a mere heart of stone.”
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